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601 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:38 pm

Governor Lorinbas wrote:Well if this the end, I want to say thank you guys for the fun we had, and special thanks to Lore for being GM and starting this.

I hope that at some point in the future we can do something like this again, and than it will work out.

Same, this was the first time I have ever done something like this and it was a ride.

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602 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:43 pm

T_T It was very fun. So... do we want to go out with a bang or should we just end the forum? I have a revelation that could effectively end the CoG forever but I don't want to kill people's characters without their permission

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603 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:44 pm

Governor Gollvieg wrote:T_T It was very fun. So... do we want to go out with a bang or should we just end the forum? I have a revelation that could effectively end the CoG forever but I don't want to kill people's characters without their permission

Why the hell not.

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604 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:49 pm

You can kill my Character as long as it is entertaining Smile

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605 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:53 pm

I have a few rabbits in my hat as well, but I'll wait until the end of Echain is properly announced Wink

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606 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:00 pm

At least we stopped before I had to back stab anyone...

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607 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:05 pm

Well I can't really complain even if I cared to, so go ahead and kill me o.o

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608 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:12 pm

We're still waiting on ceca sanders so here's a hint of what's gonna happen. I am technically an American Spy. Twisted Evil

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609 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:26 pm

I think it is good to get all the dirty stuff out in the open just for all to laugh, and funnily enough the only shady stuff I did is to build secret weapons/tanks factories and to found the Patriots together with Gollvieg....^^

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610 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:29 pm

I really don't want to explain what I was going to do with the monarchists. Very Happy

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611 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:43 pm

Why grifen?

The truth is, me and Grifen have had a secret alliance for a long time, basically since the vassal situation was "solved". He informed me of monarchist plans, and acted as a mole in the movement. Frankly, I half expected him to be discovered when he agreed to "join" you under the conditions he had, especially de facto giving him Aberisk before the revolution and protection against Northport (meant to limit your options to get Northport's support) are (were) ludicrous.

I approached many other people to ally against monarchy; of them, only Whiskey and Chaos responded, both positively (although I know Chaos was also approached by you, so I can't be sure of his loyalty), and I was also trying to get weapons and military instructors from the Americans (and if that didn't go through, I'd advise Whiskey to do the same with maoists and soviets).

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612 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:48 pm

I suspected that when he told me to keep our alliance a secret, it just seemed to good to be trues especially after his original protests. I doubt you would have gotten American support, it is the main reason I wanted Gollvieg as I knew of his alliance with the Americans.

As for Chaos not a minute before the game ended he pledged to help me. Whiskey was really the wild card for me as I had no idea whether he would join you or create his own socialist faction.

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613 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:50 pm

To be honest, I am not surprised that Grifen would be the backstaber once again.

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614 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:53 pm

Yeah, I pretty much secured a promise from the US that if anyone tries to bring the Soviets into Echain, a full blown US invasion force will show up and occupy the Airbases and Naval Docks that I was secretly beginning construction.

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615 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:54 pm

Actually, keeping an alliance secret is quite reasonable, and in this situation, it was the good call.

Grifen isn't the betrayer, you were the betrayers, as you betrayed all of Echain by planning a civil war Smile

As for Chaos, we should wait for his confirmation. I didn't really count on him, as the fact is, with Lurem, Plainsdale and Eastport joined by Waltens (I knew you've forsaken Waltens, which was a stupid decision IMO) and with Aberisk being compromised by Grifen, it would be at least a fair fight.

And that's still neglecting the damage Grifen's "defection" would cause.

EDIT: Secretly building docks? That's impossible. I don't care how little Secrecy stat anyone has, or how high yours is, but the entire Echain would know that "something" is up in the place you were building those docks.

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616 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:59 pm

To be honest I am happy that it did not go further because with all the info I have now, I think I would have been saying bullshit and have been pissed off for the next 3 weeks.

Grifen is a betrayer, his character will for me every be one, I can not forget the shit he pulled with the monopoly.

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617 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:01 pm

I doubt Grifen would do much because nearly all of Aberisk's major weapons systems, R&D, spy network, counter-intelligence, criminal underground, black market, and assassins were not at all tied to the Governor office and is instead a part of the Order. Gifenknight would inherit a land without resources and people who are very anti-Grifenknight.

Literally no one asked why Castor was being built so close to the sea, and Casel was building an "International" Airport



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618 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:02 pm

Quite the opposite, Grifen is quite loyal. He did get a great deal from you, but he was loyal to me - because I was the only person who didn't constantly demean him (aside from the vassal thing). Put it simply - you never deserved or tried to deserve his loyalty.

You just complained about it.

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619 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:05 pm

Yeah I was playing both sides a little bit, I planned on supporting Alexander more and eventually backstabbing Felix.

The Secession really put a hamper on my plans.

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620 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:05 pm

I did not want his loyalty.
What I wanted was not to be mugged under the tabel because I tried to help him. I wanted to be treated fair and not robbed for fs sake. I stop now because that whole thing still pisses me off, and it has nothing to do with the stuff we are talking right now.

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621 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:07 pm

Damn this is quite sad, I was looking forward to this playing out.

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622 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:08 pm

I didn't try to stab you in the back concerning the monopoly, Lorinbas, and I'm truly sorry if it hurt you. Felix approached me about it when the compact only consisted of 3 regions and it didn't seem like it would hurt you, but, without my knowledge, the compact expanded to most of the nation, which I did not expect.

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623 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:09 pm

You should, also, be aware that you were getting very close to Gollvieg, which I was openly against, so I saw you as an enemy instead of a friend...

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624 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:12 pm

Governor Grifenknight wrote:You should, also, be aware that you were getting very close to Gollvieg, which I was openly against, so I saw you as an enemy instead of a friend...

Was Alexander then an enemy by virtue of the fact that Gollvieg was his step-father?.

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625 Re: Out Of Character on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:13 pm

Governor Alexander wrote:
Governor Grifenknight wrote:You should, also, be aware that you were getting very close to Gollvieg, which I was openly against, so I saw you as an enemy instead of a friend...

Was Alexander then an enemy by virtue of the fact that Gollvieg was his step-father?.

I was friendly with you until you proposed reinstating the monarchy. I saw no reason to reestablish it at this point, when we have a democracy that could have been reformed.

You also wanted to fighthe, which I was very against.

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